KOOS BEKKER: Internet is as important to us as railroads were in the 19th century, and cars in the 20th

KOOS BEKKER: Yes. Alec, I think it's a judgement, but I think the Internet is as Important to our economy now as, let's say, railroads were in the 19th century or the automobile in the 20th century because it creates the basis for the whole economy, whether it's a doctor looking for an operation procedure somewhere in an overseas video library or whether it's a kid looking at the YouTube video - they are all using broadband. In fact, your service, your radio service, should be on broadband all across the country, and I should be able to do my emails and listen to you at the same time. And I think that's what's coming.

SHOOT: True to a point. It's not true obviously for those swathes of hungry people who don't have computers and never will. They are completely sidelined, sidetracked, sideswiped by the benefits of a more intelligent and freer knowledge-base. The other aspect is that computers and the internet are still energy users. You might think it's a negligible amount until you consider this: what do hundreds of thousands of people actually do, or create, other than jigging and re-jigging pixels into various formations? They don't grow food or do much that is of consequential interest. Computers do impact on efficiency but there's alays a counter argument. The gamers, those who consume porn or chat all day - how effective are they as consumers. And then there's online advertiisng. how effective is it compared to everything else?

clipped from www.moneyweb.co.za ALEC HOGG: Koos, however you want to have a look at these results, the big message that comes through is that most of the money is still being generated by pay-TV. You are investing aggressively and have made some fantastic investments around the word - in China, Russia, Brazil. And those investments are now - particularly in China - coming home strongly. KOOS BEKKER: Yes, if you look at the accounting convention again it's a bit funny because if we own 49% of a company we are not allowed to add one rand to our top line. But if we own 2% more, 51%, we add 100% to our top line, even though we don't earn 49% of it. So we are trying to overcome it by showing managed results - let's say in the case of Tencent we add 35% of their top line and their operating income. So if you look at that, at the moment the mix is about 44% of our revenues come from pay-TV, 21% from the Internet - that's together something like 65%, about two-thirds.