Original Italian Intercept link.
(10 NOVEMBRE 2007)
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AMANDA KNOX: Oh, mom! It's all
right.
EDDA: I know. Are you all
right?
Amanda KNOX: Yes, I'm fine.
EDDA: Ok. When did you start
smoking?
Amanda KNOX: Oh, why they
smoke all.
EDDA: Sit Down. Let us here.
Are you sure you're okay? (---)
Amanda KNOX: Yes, it was the
police who beat me because I said this thing
Patrick, because the last time
I went to the police, Monday, they
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talked about before with my
boyfriend and said they do not know why,
changed what he said.
EDDA: Yes, indeed.
Amanda KNOX: and then they
came back to me and they did: "we know you're lying,
We know you were in that
House, we know you've met someone, "I said,
"It is impossible, isn't
it."
EDDA: Yes.
AMANDA KNOX: so here's what I
did ... it was late at night, and they said, ' If
won't you tell us right away,
we know you're lying, you lie to go to
prison for thirty years
", and I said," I'm not lying! "and they said," Ok, what
were you doing between
the eight-thirty and the 1:30
that night? ", I don't remember, I don't remember.
EDDA: Why?
Amanda KNOX: I don't know why,
I don't remember, I was stressed, I was ... I told him to be
Raffaele stayed home to watch
a movie.
EDDA: and to consume drugs or
something?
Amanda KNOX: we were smoking
marijuana.
EDDA: Ok.
Amanda KNOX: But I remember I
remember now what happened, but not
I could explain to him exactly
what had happened, here. I told him that
We watched a movie and we had
dinner, and they said, "we know you have
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had dinner before the
eight-thirty ", I said," No, I thought I had had dinner later, "
and they said, "No, he
said that you had dinner and then you left," but now
Apparently he said he returned
home alone ... behold, continues to
change version and I don't
know why, and it confuses me a lot, did not
no reason to lie, but I don't
so I left his house, I don't
I went.
EDDA: Ok, ok.
Amanda KNOX: and then when I
shouted against said: "we know you're
lying, we know you're lying,
we know you were at home at that
now, we have proof, "I
said," it is impossible, I wasn't there. " But the
Lady, since I don't remember
exactly what happened during
This time, the lady who served
as interpreter dicevAMANDA KNOX: "well,
Maybe you've just seen
something terrible and you can't remember, "I said," How can I. ..?
"
EDDA: Then it was she who
suggested it.
Amanda KNOX: Yes, she said. At
one point he translated that I forgot that
that had happened for a year.
EDDA: (---) you were back home
and you saw something ...
Amanda KNOX: Yes, and I saw
something terrible, and I mean ...
EDDA: (---)
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AMANDA KNOX: I have just said
that I sent a message to Patrick and so I was
very confusing when they spoke
to me, I wondered: "How is it possible that
I don't remember exactly what
happened at her house? ", and Raffaele said
that I'd go, but I thought it
was impossible, so the next day I
began to think that perhaps I
had really forgotten something because
their loud against me and
someone gave me a bump on the head, behold, two
times this policewoman hit me
in the head and then ...
EDDA: so, you're back to your
original version and that's what happened?
Amanda KNOX: Yes, that's what
happened and now ... because there were holes, because
When I spoke with them the
first time, I said, "Yes, I spent all
the night with Raphael at her
house ".
EDDA: Yes, okay.
Amanda KNOX: and then they
asked me what I did specifically and I forgot
because it was late at night
and they were yelling against and then ...
EDDA: did you mention this to
your lawyers?
Amanda KNOX: I sent them a
letter yesterday. I could not talk at length with them,
but I still say what had
happened, and they said, "Ok, then you
left the House? ","
No, I'm not leaving the House, now I remember,
I haven't left the House
"and what they're doing right now is
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ask me if I remember
something, so I'm trying to remember the last time
I saw Meredith.
EDDA: well, you said you were
going home when she was there to do laundry or
stuff like that.
Amanda KNOX: Yes, indeed.
She's gone to first and then I (---) Raphael at my house and
then I heard the story he had
come home (---), which is not true,
because ...
EDDA: Now running stories in
which there would be your fingerprints on the
Meredith's face.
Amanda KNOX: What?
EDDA: Yes.
Amanda KNOX: are crap!
EDDA: Yes.
Amanda KNOX: are crap!
EDDA: Yes, ok, ok. I know it's
bullshit. Therefore, the lawyers told me to
tell you that you absolutely
have to try to remember what you can, any
What, whatever happened, as
long as you tell them the truth.
AMANDA KNOX: Sure.
EDDA: ... because only in this
way can help you.
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Amanda KNOX: sure, I know, I
understand. I wasn't there, I haven't touched Meredith. That is, not
I understand what you are
saying and I'm not watching TV because, ok, I
saw that piece, and it was ...
EDDA: you were in isolation?
Amanda KNOX: No, I'm in
isolation.
EDDA: how come?
Amanda KNOX: Yes, all right,
it's funny, she's really very well organized, and is
organizing even me, huh-huh!
EDDA: I thought you needed
books. What do you need? I brought some
Today, I have already given?
AMANDA KNOX: No.
EDDA: Okay, I brought a
borsAMANDA KNOX: there's some underwear, (---) sweaters
fleece, pants, I do not know
if you will be best (---) we return on Tuesday,
so you'll have to tell me. ..
Amanda KNOX: what I need.
EDDA: I could pour
just-twenty, forty, sixty, seventy euros in a
account.
Amanda KNOX: (---) I also have
some money here, I have a couple hundred dollars (---)
EDDA: you paid Them here?
Amanda KNOX: No, I paid, I
took them with everything else.
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EDDA: But you should have an
account.
AMANDA KNOX: I have it, I got
it.
EDDA: Ok. What can you buy?
Amanda KNOX: the things I can
buy like biscuits, shampoo, I can buy
Oil of Olay and stuff, but I
can't buy clothes.
EDDA: Ok, so I need to get you
some clothes.
Amanda KNOX: I need socks.
EDDA: Oh, I brought a couple
of PARS. What kind of socks?
AMANDA KNOX: simply they are
heavy, because it's really cold. I mean, obviously I already
sweaters and stuff, so that's
good. I don't think I can have a
CAP, but I need some slippers.
EDDA: Okay, so I bring you
your slippers?
Amanda KNOX: Yes, and then I
guess I have to ask if I can buy me like a razor for
shave.
EDDA: Ok, ok. Do you feel
safe?
Amanda KNOX: Yes, Yes, the
ladies here are very kind and they are always on my side. One
woman ... because once I was
crying, and they see you and hear you, and you ...
huh-huh-huh!
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EDDA: (---) the people here
are amazing. They accommodated me in an apartment
in town and now there is one
that works with the twinning with Seattle and which has
a large villa in a country not
far from here ...
Amanda KNOX: and go and stay
with him?
EDDA: Yes, Yes.
Amanda KNOX: Ok.
EDDA: I'll be here ... make me
only on Saturdays and Tuesdays. Your Daddy's here, you
landed in Rome today, but he
can't get here today.
Amanda KNOX: so it will be
here Tuesday.
EDDA: and we can call? You
know something about it?
Amanda KNOX: Oh, they call me
often.
EDDA: and you need to use the
phone? We can give you the phone?
Amanda KNOX: Oh, I don't know
... I don't know what I can get here.
EDDA: Ok, ok.
Amanda KNOX: I don't feel like
(---)
EDDA: Ok, (--)
Amanda KNOX: knows what's
going on?
EDDA: well, everybody they're
painting like a super Monster killer.
Amanda KNOX: are you serious?
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EDDA: Yes, Yes, and I knew
that everyone in the family, the whole family is German
been besieged by the media, is
a crazy thing, it's a crazy thing, and
everything he said is to tell
Amanda (---)
Amanda KNOX: I was going to
say: "talk to DJ".
EDDA: Yes, I sent him an
email.
Amanda KNOX: and what did he
say?
EDDA: responded: "tell
her I love her and always will no matter what happens." Then
they found your fingerprints
or other things in that room?
Amanda KNOX: No! I mean, in
that room there have been earlier but I was not there
When that happened, it's
impossible, it's bullshit!
EDDA: Ok, ok.
Amanda KNOX: that is, it is
just impossible.
EDDA: Ok.
Amanda KNOX: I don't know why
the police is doing this, because I helped them since
from the beginning ...
EDDA: I know, I know.
Amanda KNOX: and I don't know
why they're doing this.
EDDA: well, we hope they can
get some testing from DNA.
Amanda KNOX: Yes, I'm just
waiting for this to occur and that shows that at that
When I wasn't home. So I'm
waiting, but I don't know when you
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occur, here. The only problem
is that I know that eventually I get out of here because
I didn't do anything ... it's
just that I don't like waiting around seat
here.
EDDA: Yes. Did you get the
books?
Amanda KNOX: I make them take
my, but I can use those of the library.
Now I'm reading the jungle
book.
EDDA: Ok. What you want me to
take you like books? because I think I could get you some
books.
Amanda KNOX: can you get me
some books? Uhm ... The books I need for school are
actually the ones that are in
the bag. Apart from that ... I just want to get out, not
I want to be here, I'd rather
be under house arrest with you, but
I know that lawyers are
working on it. Often speak with you?
EDDA: Yes, Yes. There's that
lawyer ... Luciano?
Amanda KNOX: Luciano Ghirga.
EDDA: (---) and the other,
which we have named for the Embassy, working with people
from other countries.
Amanda KNOX: and I know that
the only reason the media they think I'm this monster is
because it is the police that
says so.
EDDA: Yes.
Amanda KNOX: and police say
that's because you don't know shit.
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EDDA: Yes.
Amanda KNOX: so I'm waiting
for the cops to dicAMANDA KNOX: "Oh fuck, we cannot
try anything! "
EDDA: well ... and lawyers
have asked me to ask why you changed
your version.
Amanda KNOX: Yes, because I
was told: "If you don't say what you know now, we will put you in
prison for thirty years, 30
years, all my life! " And I said, "I'm trying to
help you, but I don't remember
what I was doing exactly that hour ". The
I said that I was watching a
movie with him and that I was dining with him;
them: "we know you're
lying," I said, "it's impossible, I'm not lying."
EDDA: (---)
Amanda KNOX: Yes, I don't know
if he has changed his story because I'm not looking
the TV because it irritates me,
honestly.
EDDA: Yes, I look at her.
Amanda KNOX: everything I've
seen is "the mystery of Amanda", and I dettAMANDA KNOX: are all
huge shit, I didn't do
anything. And I told the psychologist and all
These people that I'm really
sorry for saying these things, but it was
just because the police
confused me, told me I'd be in
thirty years why not
collaborated, and I said, "But I'm working, I did not
nothing! " There is
nothing you should fear, and then just waiting to prove
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I didn't do anything. I don't
think they will want to ... I mean, for me I
the impression that I'll have
to stay here a lot because the police want it to be
that was me.
EDDA: well, they want someone,
that's what they want.
AMANDA KNOX: exactly, and they
stick to anything. Because I changed my version
they think I'm the big serial
killer. It's bullshit, I didn't do anything,
and people here are very
friendly, actually people here, the police, are not
the police, people who work
for the prison, and one of them
saw him cry and entry and I
was consoled for half an hour. But I'm fine
When I'm here, I feel bad
about what I did to Patrick, because the
only reason I mentioned his
name is because it was the first person who
I was reminded of when I was
talking, and maybe I imagined by
having seen it, but I know
it's impossible, I only imagined it because I was very
stressed.
EDDA: Ok, that's what I
thought. I thought, you know ... the lawyer just wanted
you know, no matter what, if
you walked in and if you've done the deed,
just want to know the truth,
so that ... Yes.
Amanda KNOX: No, and people
keep telling me: If you know something just say it I'm saying it.
EDDA: so you have no idea who
could have done this?
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Amanda KNOX: I don't have a
clue, not a clue, because I was with
Raphael at his home. And what
was I doing there? Yesterday I sent them a letter
who should receive it today or
tomorrow, where I explain what I was doing in
now I remember, to have black
and white. For sure ...
EDDA: Ok. Will contact you
tomorrow?
Amanda KNOX: Yes, I mean, I
don't see why not. Of course ...
EDDA: you know how they kept
me here?
AMANDA KNOX: No.
EDDA: Three hours.
Amanda KNOX: three hours? Yes,
but what a surprise, indeed! Everything you have to give, that
fucked up!
EDDA: I keep waiting and waiting,
and then he didn't like my
Passport, Edda Mellas, while
you are Knox, and make me: How do we
know that she is his mother?
then they had to call the lawyer and I
had to send me to fax your
birth certificate ... my goodness!
Amanda KNOX: glad you made it!
EDDA: Yes, I'm so glad you're
okay. So, we have two lawyers,
We ...
Amanda KNOX: and what about
family?
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EDDA: well, they're all ...
don't know, say: this doesn't seem to
Amanda, but then they are
bombarded by the media, and they say: hold on! You know, the
your friends, and Madison was
... they were very wearing and she ...
Amanda KNOX: Why? They talked
with Madison?
EDDA: Yes, and she said:
"Amanda I know wouldn't do such a thing", the
your friends have said
"Impossible 100%".
Amanda KNOX: they talked with
my friends?
EDDA: with everyone, Amanda.
Amanda KNOX: How did they find
my friends?
EDDA: I have traced my cell
number, I don't know how, and "NBC News
Twenty Twenty "caught me
as I was leaving today from the apartment,
the secret apartment that I
occupy in Perugia.
Amanda KNOX: What?
EDDA: Uh-uh ... The lawyers
have said something interesting, they said:
Amanda found herself involved
in something much bigger than her because
This is all a huge crap on an
international level.
Amanda KNOX: I didn't do
anything.
EDDA: I know, I know. I don't
know how much time do I have with you.
Amanda KNOX: is one hour.
EDDA: an hour? OK, ok.
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Amanda KNOX: I can speak
Italian (sic in Italian).
EDDA: My God! What?
Amanda KNOX: I speak Italian.
EDDA: do they know?
Amanda KNOX: Yes, when I'm
here, the police, the police are very frustrating in this
now, I understand they are
very stressed and everything, but when I
Here I mean people around, as
psychologists ...
EDDA: there are psychologists
here?
Amanda KNOX: Oh, can I talk to
five different psychologists.
EDDA: Why?
Amanda KNOX: because they want
to see how I feel, and so the tale of
how I feel, and most of the
time I feel good, why not
I watch TV, but then I always
feel bad about what I said about
Patrick, so I speak to you,
and then ... I tell him the truth, that's, frankly, the
I say exactly how I feel
because I don't want to hide, I'm trying to say
how things really are.
EDDA: and because I'm sitting
in a bloody Italian prison, understood as
I feel?
Amanda KNOX: Yes, that's
right, and I told him that I would prefer to stay with my mom. It is true that
Nobody here treats me badly,
I'm treated better than ...
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EDDA: Ok, ok.
Amanda KNOX: Okay, don't treat
me badly. I eat the food they have, which among other things
It's not that bad.
EDDA: Ok.
Amanda KNOX: I mean, they give
you a portion of meat, vegetables and pasta,
always, but still is good, it
is not always of the same type, then goes
right, but anyway I don't want
to be here, that can wait, I'm good at
wait, I am patient. The
priest, the priest here cried for me ... I was so
upset!
EDDA: Why?
Amanda KNOX: simply because I
was sad the fact that I was here. I spoke with
He and after talking to him
you knew how I felt, and I was
said: "would you like to
go and visit my church when you're done?" and I said, "Yes,
of course, "because it
was so sweet, she started crying, just crying and
He said, "I'm so sorry
for your situation."
EDDA: Ok.
Amanda KNOX: and then everyone
else, IE I mean women who are with me in
This side, there is one that
always makes me: "Amanda! How are you? "because it's all
what he knows in English and I
am not allowed to answer you, I can't
talk to them.
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EDDA: Why?
AMANDA KNOX: I don't know, I
am not allowed, I can only talk with girls in
my room.
EDDA: Exit? I mean, they make
you go outdoors?
AMANDA KNOX: No.
EDDA: Ever?
Amanda KNOX: well, no. I am
not allowed to attend the other inmates.
EDDA: Why?
AMANDA KNOX: I don't know, I
was just told that I can't talk to them.
I can only speak with whoever
is in my room, but not ... I mean, nobody
never said things like,
"Oh, it's time to get out." And I asked the woman who is
in the room with me and told
me: Yes, I don't think they go to the
where (---). I think if you
really want to go out, that is if you ask them, they must
take you in an open area
special, because I think technically
talking is not an inmate, and
that is why they can't attend,
because they fear that (---)
EDDA: (---)
Amanda KNOX: Yes, exactly.
EDDA: Como se dice? ... (sic
in Italian) because when they talk to me tell me
always: How do you say
"How do you say?" If you say ... okay.
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Amanda KNOX: How, how, si,
one, then: How do you say, how does one say.
EDDA: Yes, I always say. There
is a lady, Daniela bourgeois, who works at ...
Amanda KNOX: Yes, I've heard
of (---)
EDDA: is fantastic. It was she
who gave me the apartment and put me
contact with this other man.
Amanda KNOX: I can't remember
if I ever spoke to her. I know I've talked to a
Donna ...
EDDA: you know, anybody can
come see you but me, Daddy ...
Amanda KNOX: Really?
EDDA: Yes, no friends ...
Brett (sic) wants to write you a letter and lawyers
they say ...
Amanda KNOX: Right? They also
talked about Brett?
EDDA: I think Brett pretend I
don't exist and you keep away from them.
Amanda KNOX: Ok, so much the
better.
EDDA: I don't know how they
did it.
Amanda KNOX: as (---)?
EDDA: I don't know. And John
Norbur (sic) has been interviewed countless times ...
Amanda KNOX: John?! (sic)
EDDA: Yes, and everyone says,
everyone has said ...
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Amanda KNOX: Amanda ... I
wouldn't do such a thing, Yes, I know I wouldn't
fact and that's why I'm not
afraid, it's just that I don't feel like
wait and I'm afraid I'll have
to wait very long, because the police is not
on my side, they say "it
was you", and "I" is not true, and you
you have been those that you
gave me a bump on the head and you told me I would be
went to prison for 30 years
because I when I was
working all right. " I'm
not angry with them, so that they too are
subjected to a great deal of
stress, but in this situation are behaving
just stupid, I didn't do
anything, you have chosen the
wrong person be condemned,
because obviously they don't
know, but everyone I know
would be on my side, and that's
one of the things that people
here says: "Yes, we know that you have friends who
believe in you, at least you
can be sure, "I said," Ok, because the
police don't believe in anyone
who supports me, "and their" No, it is important that the police
understand that you did
nothing, but know at least that out there there are
people who know that you
didn't do anything. "
EDDA: sure, sure.
Amanda KNOX: and I wasn't
going to lie, I thought in fairness he could
be true when I said that thing
about Patrick, because I saw him.
imagined when I was under a
lot of stress, and it is strange because I can't
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say rationally that I was
completely rational about that point,
because I was in despair,
behold, I was so scared when I was
with them because I said, '
you'll end up in jail for 30 years now, if not
write on this piece of paper
who did, tell us the name, tell us, tell us the name
name ", I don't know anything,
I said:" I don't remember, I don't remember what I was
doing exactly at that moment,
I don't know who the killer is, "and they said," No,
We know that you know this, we
know that you know ", are crap! I don't understand how
they say they found fingerprints
of his ... that is, my
fingerprints on her face, it's
ridiculous.
EDDA: Ok.
Amanda KNOX: So journalists
don't know absolutely nothing, the police doesn't know
absolutely nothing, are
cavillando on a bullshit. It is stupid ... ah yes, and
I hope they talk to my lawyers
and see if they can get me my
the letters.
EDDA: Ok. I think we will be
talking to you on Tuesday.
Amanda KNOX: Ok. Both or only
Luciano?
EDDA: I think both.
Amanda KNOX: Ok, because it's
easier when ... because I can speak Italian, but not
are able to express
everything, because I don't know the words.
When someone speaks to me
understand exactly what it is. I didn't say anything
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much English here, I spoke
very Italian, but often I just have to
listen and respond
"Yes" or "something that is not hard to talk" (sic in
Italian) bla bla bla bla bla.
EDDA: Yes, the lady who
accompanied me here today is called Stella.
Amanda KNOX: Ah, Stella.
EDDA: Been To Stella?
Amanda KNOX: Yes, it's one of
the women walking along my hallway to see
How do I look.
EDDA: No, No, Stella is ...
that's another thing.
Amanda KNOX: Ah, ok.
EDDA: Yes, she works for a
Catholic charity that helps those in need.
AMANDA KNOX: I heard that lawyers
are trying to get you there. Even at
I would love to go there.
EDDA: Yes, it would be ...
they are working on it, but she is funny because (---) and I
kisses ...
Amanda KNOX: A very
interesting culture, yes I know. Yes, it was weird for me too,
because I remember I was in
solitary confinement and had a sister who had come to
talk to me, the first
religious come to me, and immediately after
talked to her I remembered
what I had done by Raffaele, because that
I did with Raffaele after
dinner, what I did is that when we
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arrived home I watched one
song that I wanted to learn to play with
Guitar, I read some Harry
Potter in German, then we watched
Amélie (sic), then I got a
message from Patrick that he
I had to go to work that
evening and I sent a message with
something like "ok, see
you, good night" (sic in Italian), which means
"see ya, good
evening", then had dinner and after dinner was what
I don't remember the police
there, and why I don't remember was
I mean, isn't that when
smoking then I don't remember things, it was because
We talked, there was an event
that occurred, we were
talking, and that's why I
don't remember, because we were
simply speaking. Raffaele and
I we were in his room and we talked
his mother, of his past (---)
I'm not entirely sure of the exact wire
following the conversation,
but I know we've talked about his mom,
I know we've talked about his
past, I know we've talked about my
the past and the fact that
some people were telling me that I was a lesbian at
higher, because we were
talking about what we had in common or not, because
After dinner they broke the
pipes under her sink, they are loose and
poured some water on the
floor, and he irritated a lot while I
I thought it was funny, I
said: "Oh, it's fun!" (--) so in the morning
later I went to my house to
get a rag, and ...
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EDDA: at the end who called
the cops? I remember when I talked
you, I told you: hang up and
call 911. Somebody call the
Police?
Amanda KNOX: When I talked to
you, she was ... Yes.
EDDA: I told you to hang up
and call the police. You used to tell me that there was
someone in the House and I
said to hang up and call. Who did he call?
Amanda KNOX: was Raphael.
EDDA: Yes, she called him? OK,
fine.
Amanda KNOX: it was strange, I
even have trouble remembering exactly, just
exactly, what happened at home
because I was in shock. I remember
He called Philomena, but I do
not remember to have called you.
EDDA: Really?
Amanda KNOX: No, I don't
remember exactly I called you.
EDDA: and yet you called me
three times.
Amanda KNOX: Oh, I don't know.
EDDA: Ok. You called me once
and told me ...
Amanda KNOX: I was in shock,
you know.
EDDA: but that was before
nothing happened except the fact that the House
was ...
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Amanda KNOX: I know who was
calling, but I don't remember calling Filomena
Remember calling anybody else
here. I didn't think to call you, not
I remember.
EDDA: Why?
Amanda KNOX: Because a lot has
happened very quickly and at that point I
was wondering "what the
hell is going on?"
EDDA: well, you're the one
calling me and telling me that there was a foot.
Amanda KNOX: Yes! Because I
was confused, I was really confused, and that's another thing.
When I was there I heard
Filomena say "a foot! a foot! "said" my foot!
foot! foot! " (sic in
Italian), and I said, "one foot? There was a foot in the room? "
EDDA: I remember you called me
and then I got called back and told me:
"There is only one
foot"
AMANDA KNOX: (---)
EDDA: I've asked ...
Amanda KNOX: Because I didn't
know, I asked Raphael to tell me what was in the
room, because I hadn't looked
into the room, I didn't know who was there
the room, the only thing I saw
in it is when looking from
Keyhole to see if I could see
it, but the only thing I
saw was his person on the bed
(?), so I didn't see anything, I didn't
saw blood.
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EDDA: you and Raffaele have
tried to enter and have a look.
Amanda KNOX: I was keen to
call the police when we saw the blood
sincerely, but there was so
much blood and my first
thought was not
"murder!", I don't think "murder!" when
something happens ...
EDDA: (---)
AMANDA KNOX: exactly, I
thought perhaps menstrual blood or (---) seemed as if
someone had gone to the House
in a hurry and ... I mean, I couldn't
understand, but I didn't think
anything bad and when I came home to
Raffaele ... I mean, I talked
to him, I told him: it's funny, as I said,
but at the beginning of our
conversation was so: here's something odd:
went to my house and the door
was open and there was a little blood in the bathroom and then
There was the shit in the
toilet and had not been pulled the drain, and I dettAMANDA KNOX:
isn't that a little strange?
Maybe you called your roommate, so I
called Philomena and Filomena
called me back a few times before returning
home at the end because we had
to type her things, I didn't think
something happened when I was
home, I had no idea, here.
EDDA: you're alive, you're
alive.
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Amanda KNOX: Yes, I was
telling Raphael just happened, had it not been
for you, if I hadn't been at
home, I could be dead by now, i.e.
I could have been dead!
EDDA: (---)
AMANDA KNOX: Fuck! (---)
Frankly, it's one of those
things that ...
EDDA: it's surreal.
Amanda KNOX: Yes, I feel like
I'm watching (---), especially given that ... that is, I
seen my face on TV and I do
not understand very well what's going on
why this is all happening very
quickly anyway and I'm not going to sit around and
listen, and I may have seen my
face on TV, I saw this "Mystery of
Amanda "(sic in Italian),
this mystery of Amanda, and is ... is bullshit,
Journalists know nothing and
even the cops know nothing and then ...
I just don't know how long I
have to wait, that's the only thing I
worries.
EDDA: well, say it could take
a while. Will draw against your
arrest and in this case they
said about a month and what they hope to
get house arrest until ...
AMANDA KNOX: (---)
EDDA: exactly, until they
fixed it.
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Amanda KNOX: But the thing that
really can't understand is why Raffaele has
lied. Why did he do this? He
had no reason to do so. I remember
be gone ... After talking, we
had sex and then we shopped
for a while, because that's
how we do, type in the face, and then when I was tired
I fell asleep between her arms
and I woke up the next morning
near him.
EDDA: well, maybe he's in the
same condition, was under stress (---)
Amanda KNOX: Yes, that's what
I thought, too, that is the only answer that I
flashed in my head, because
otherwise why would she do that? Would not
wanted ...
EDDA: Want to do some kind of
public statement.
Amanda KNOX: Ok. I'm innocent?
EDDA: Yes, although your
lawyers have already declared. After I
first saw it, they said you
were absolutely (---)
Amanda KNOX: So the only
reason I changed my version is because the
Police tormented me?
EDDA: I will speak with you, I
ask, so you can tell them.
Amanda KNOX: and also explain,
why the police was good and dear to me after
I mentioned the name of
Patrick, but first they told me that I was a kind of beast
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horrible and the only reason
they wanted was that so after were not to
more work, fuck you! go fuck
boys! Behold, I am so ...
EDDA: the lawyers were told
not to talk about it here (---)
Amanda KNOX: No, I don't want
to talk about it. I've told people who asked me ... Some I
They asked: why did you change
your story? Why did you change your
version? And I answered him:
because I was yelling at him,
He told me ... that is, threatened
me.
EDDA: Yes.
Amanda KNOX: and I didn't want
to change my version, but at the same time when I
thought Patrick I imagined
something and I didn't lie, I didn't
lied to protect me.
EDDA: Ok.
Amanda KNOX: I just said it
because I thought it might be true.
EDDA: what did you say about
Patrick?
Amanda KNOX: I said ... what
happened then ... everyone had left the room and
There was only one COP who
dicevAMANDA KNOX: "I'm the only one who can save you, are the
only one who can save you,
just give me a name. " And I said, "I don't know!" And
then I do it, I said,
"can you show me the message I received
by Patrick? "because I
don't remember of having sent a message to
response, and then they showed
me the message and I dettAMANDA KNOX: Patrick! and
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then I thought I saw Patrick
and I think I totally blew my mind
and I imagined seeing and. ..
EDDA: see where?
Amanda KNOX: The basketball
court.
EDDA: Ok.
Amanda KNOX: and then to my
house I figured I go in the kitchen as well because I felt
scream, but it's not true, it
does not.
EDDA: so yes, they said you
were ... ok.
Amanda KNOX: so it's not true,
I just said it because I thought it was true because I
imagined, I didn't say it
because I wanted to protect myself, and I feel terrible
for this, because I put
Patrick into a horrible situation now is in
jail and that's my fault, it's
my fault that he's here, I feel
terrible, I didn't want to do
it, I was just scared and I was confused, but now I
Plus, I'm here and I'm safe,
but I don't want to stay here because I know you don't
deserve to be here, that's all
I can say about that. Anyway
It's good to see you, because
I really wanted to see you.
EDDA: I know, I've been here I
don't know how many days (---) Oh, my God! And then when
I got here (---) because I
wasn't able to prove that I was the mother.
Amanda KNOX: they are full of
shit. Full of shit. But I'm fine, I just don't
I want to be here, here.
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EDDA: Yes.
Amanda KNOX: I am so surprised
that they managed to get in touch with Madison!
How the hell did they track
down Madison? I have never lived with
Madison, I never had lessons
with Madison, how on earth could they
know about Madison? And fuck
you!
EDDA: like I said, the whole
family has heard these horrible things and are
suggesting there is a drug
culture and maybe even ... Yes, Yes, Yes.
Amanda KNOX: Yes, it's true
that turns a lot of drugs here in Perugia and there are people who use it here
near my house, but I've never
seen them, that is, it's not that I'm dealing with
the drug every day, isn't it.
..
EDDA: Ok.
Amanda KNOX: that is, the only
reason I used here is because I was here with ... er ...
Laura (sic) and Molly (sic)
smoke all the time.
EDDA: Weed or cigarettes?
Amanda KNOX: cigarettes of day
and evening grass. OK, so we were there to talk, and then
I said to myself, and go a
little, you know ...
EDDA: have you heard of them?
Amanda KNOX: No, I haven't
heard.
EDDA: well, no one, no one can
enter here, nobody can contact you (---)
Amanda KNOX: I don't like what
people are thinking.
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EDDA: Yes.
Amanda KNOX: people think I'm
some kind of freak, but at the same time.
I mean, I don't know what
people think of me Laura (sic) and Molly (sic), but I'm pretty
sure they think they are the
shit, because I know and know not
I would do something like
that, that I spoke to them the next day and I was
confused as them and then all
of a sudden this horrible monster and.
What I do know is that I would
like to have a public apology by the
Police when this story is over
because I have messed up my life.
When I leave here I'll be a
different person, because they are no longer
innocent. I know that things
can get messy and that people may think ill
you because of you, guys,
thanks a lot! People who are here, like that
woman with whom I speak, tells
me: "I'll come out much stronger."
EDDA: is what you keep
repeating your lawyers. I was talking about
with him and said, "you
will come out stronger than before" and I ... Yes.
Amanda KNOX: Ok, thanks. You
know, you didn't need to be so strong and there was
need to find myself in such a
situation, eh-eh! It's amazing that you
have to live such a situation!
EDDA: it's surreal, it's a
nightmare, really. My fear is that they might be wrong,
that could lead hurt the
investigation, here's what worries me.
AMANDA KNOX: (---)
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EDDA: (---) Yes, because it's
a big mess.
Amanda KNOX: (---) I was
there, and it's bullshit. I mean, I thought that trying another (---)
EDDA: Yes, the lawyers told me
that the truth will come out.
Amanda KNOX: I mean, there's
innocent people that was ordered ...
EDDA: I know, I know.
Amanda KNOX: ... just because
the police were looking for (---) and when they find something
that is similar to something,
do: "Oh, here we go!" It is precisely
strange, because from the
beginning it has helped police, from the very beginning I was
Fourteen hours at a time, I
went there in the middle of the night trying to
help them, and them ... it's
not fair, you know? It's not my fault that this happened, not
I have no idea who did it.
What I'm trying to remember now is when
I was with her the last time,
I was talking to her about Halloween, and I'm
trying to remember what she
said about Halloween. IE ...
I cared a lot about this
person ...
EDDA: I know, I know.
Amanda KNOX: this person was a
friend of mine and they think I killed her?
they think I'm involved, I
helped because I was acting with
malice aforethought?
EDDA: I know (---)
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Amanda KNOX: Yes, why, why?
There is absolutely no reason, that's another
element to my advantage: there
is absolutely no reason why I should
do it. Why? (---)
Ralph has lied. But then I was
under stress and I
say something wrong, and then
maybe ...
EDDA: maybe it was he.
Amanda KNOX: Yes, I felt like
I was beating or whatnot, I felt
bad for him. I'm not mad at
him, I feel bad for him.
EDDA: because you know you've
been through the same thing.
Amanda KNOX: Yes, that's
right, and I know that he's here and that maybe she doesn't treat him well as
me, just because ... Yes, I
mean, when I here people look at me as if
I was a little girl, as a
daughter, and this reassures me because it means that
the people are nice to me,
doesn't treat me like crap, but at the same time
I bet he is not receiving a similar
treatment from the guys down there, not
know if it is in isolation
right now, I don't know if he is allowed to do
something or if you do not
know what happens down there, handcuffed, I feel bad,
really awful about him, I feel
bad for Patrick, because ...
EDDA: Yes, I know, well he's
in the same boat, will fail the test.
Amanda KNOX: I don't know if I
can face him after all of this, because I owe him of
apologies, here is what I know
I have to do, I have to go to him and tell him: "I am
really sorry about (---)
"
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EDDA: Ok, ok, probably now he
is experiencing the same stress (---)
He probably says the same
cosAMANDA KNOX: "I'm not mad at her because ..."
AMANDA KNOX: (---)
EDDA: Yes, Yes.
Amanda KNOX: and then, behold,
I want to tell someone how I feel about everything
This, but I can't, so I'm
stuck here and all I can do is
write to my ...
EDDA: the priest comes to
visit you?
Amanda KNOX: she visits when
he's here, but it's not here every day. So far I have seen
two times: one time I was in
my room with him and the other I spoke through
the bars of my door.
EDDA: don't make you break out
of your room?
AMANDA KNOX: make me out when
they need me for something, but otherwise
I stay inside my room.
EDDA: Really? With another
person?
Amanda KNOX: Yes.
EDDA: then what are you doing
in there? Yoga?
Amanda KNOX: Do a little
stretching, although the woman who is with me is right
strange.
EDDA: (---)
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Amanda KNOX: (---) I'm not
sure where I have to do laundry. They told me to do it
bathroom, but I've never done
this before, so I will ask my roommate
room. He said he will see how
must do her laundry, because I do not
I have other jobs.
EDDA: then we should ask
before we leave, maybe we can (---)
AMANDA KNOX: (---)
EDDA: I brought a bag, and the
bag, like I said, there's like
four or five heavy blouses.
Amanda KNOX: where did you get
them? From home?
EDDA: Some I brought from home
and others I bought (---)
AMANDA KNOX: (---)
EDDA: the family has very
strongly about it, they're so upset and
worried about you and are
concerned for me too, because I missed something
like ten pounds (N.d.T.
approximately 4.5 kg) since I've been here (---)
Amanda KNOX: Yes, I think
you're less fit than me, because when I got here the
first time had a MOP because I
don't remember what I had to do
(---) and I thought,
horrible!, because I didn't think ... that is, also after ... behold,
that's another thing ... even
after speaking with the police, when I
made this confession, crap,
why don't they told me that I was
making a confession, make me:
"tell this person, this audience
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Ministry, what you think you
know, "I said," Ok, this is what
I guess, but I don't think
that's the truth, "and they said," No, No, no, no, no, just say
what you think. This is good? We
can say so? "and I said" ok ", and Lo ...
I was traumatized by the
theatrics of fuck the police ... UM, can you
tell DJS that I love him?
EDDA: Yes.
Amanda KNOX: and I hope to see
him.
EDDA: Yes, tell. It has always
been up to say, "I'm worried sick,
tell me anything "
AMANDA KNOX: (---)
EDDA: I know, I know, I know.
Amanda KNOX: and my friends
were traced?
EDDA: Yes, AFAIK.
Amanda KNOX: Why did they tell
you something?
EDDA: sure, sure.
AMANDA KNOX: what friends have
contacted? Madison, ...
EDDA: is the only one I've
seen, because I'm here now and the news appeared in the
United States after I was
playing and I had to tell people: I don't want
know, I'm not, I don't want to
hear what they're saying, I don't want to, you know,
find out about both newspapers
on the front page there's your picture, our home
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with our address, so we knock
on the door relentlessly, day and night, and
He is really mad.
Amanda KNOX: and he's right.
EDDA: Yes.
Amanda KNOX: And Deanna?
EDDA: Deanna ... Deanna is
destroyed. They found the House of
student, someone from the
press. He called the BBC, you know, home ... Yes it is
just worried about you, just
worried about you, really.
Amanda KNOX: I'm worried about
me. (---)
EDDA: I know, I don't blame
you. If I could get you the books, what do you
would love to read? In what
language?
Amanda KNOX: UM, I'd like to
read Harry Potter in German.
EDDA: Ok. You have it in your
bag?
Amanda KNOX: Yes ... uh, no,
no, no, actually I don't have it, I have nothing of this in the
bag, I only have the stuff
that studio. They talked to any person
with that study, type in my
class?
EDDA: I didn't see anything,
but it is all in Italian and I don't know what
they say.
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Amanda KNOX: Yes, newspapers
do not have the opportunity to read them, but I can watch TV and
I don't want to look at it,
telling me not to look at it, which are full of shit, and I:
"Ok, great! It's great!
" I'm so glad to see you!
EDDA: everything will be fine.
Amanda KNOX: Yes, I know, I
just don't want to stay here for a long time, but I fear that
I'll have to stay there for a
long time, behold, I mean ...
EDDA: (---)
Amanda KNOX: No, you don't
think you could witness ... that is, of being involved in a
murder that occurred at your
House, you know, you don't think about it, how you don't think then the
Police can charge you, and you
don't think ... How do you (---). And then sometimes ... not
I like to think (--), but when
I think about it, I think about all that I have
never happened before this and
this is the worst thing I've ever
happened to me. I've never
been more scared than I am now, I've never been
betrayed more than so, damn
police!, IE not ... Yes, I sound crazy, but is only
because (---) are very
frustrated. They know who they are: IE, I talked
them, I've been with them for
hours on end, all I did was help them, behold, and why
They said these things about
me? I don't want the world to think I'm
a bad person and I get out of
here I want to apology of police and I
going to ... I don't know, to
write a book about it.
EDDA: well, maybe (---) after
all this.
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Amanda KNOX: Heh, heh! After
all this shit. Although at the same time are not in
that can mean a lot of detail
because you don't know much, I wasn't there.
EDDA: No, but it's your
experience as a whole, you can tell the offense (--
-)
AMANDA KNOX: Yes. It is sheer
madness, as they could think such a thing of me?
I mean, I know who I am and
who I can be passed to the head the idea of
kill someone or to help someone
to do that when I was there is fucked up!
When they told me, when I have
read the arrest warrant have
said: "Yes, this person
has acted with premeditation and deliberately
helped someone to kill another
... to rape and kill another
person, "I said," what?!
"
EDDA: What?!
Amanda KNOX: I understood the
Italian, the interpreter spoke to me, but I said: "No, No, No.
I can understand. What?!
" And I dettAMANDA KNOX: oh, God!, but it is not true,
Here, the police said horrible
things about me, this Prosecutor
He said horrible things about
me, I was stung by insects,
about it.
EDDA: what bugs?
Amanda KNOX: there are
insects.
EDDA: bed bugs? Oh, my
goodness!
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Amanda KNOX: Anyway it's
nothing serious.
EDDA: you have SOAP,
toothbrush ...?
Amanda KNOX: they gave me a
toothbrush, they gave me a sponge, I don't have the
shampoo.
EDDA: you can buy?
Amanda KNOX: can I buy the
shampoo, I can buy Oil of Olaz, I can buy
(---)
EDDA: (---)
Amanda KNOX: Yes, even though
I ordered it. I ordered (---) and a notebook, and I
they took him, they told me
that I had not ordered, that strange,
because I gave him my stuff
and they said I could order it
tomorrow when I ... you know
...
EDDA: Ok.
Amanda KNOX: the police will
be really sad because I do, "I hope you leave within
Friday so you can come to my
Sunday "thing, and I said," Yes, me too ".
EDDA: Yes, I know, I don't
think that things will go as well.
Amanda KNOX: when I read (---)
of the judge who said that I should stay here
year I cried, you can't be
serious!
EDDA: well, I think that can
keep you up to a year pending
of the process.
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AMANDA KNOX: exactly, I cannot
refrain for a year until ... unless
prove that I'm not guilty, but
I don't think ... the only problem is that
I don't think the police are
interested in proving that I'm not guilty,
they will say, "well,
that proves he was not present in that room, but she could
being in the kitchen ",
of course you will find fingerprints in the kitchen ...
EDDA: Everywhere.
Amanda KNOX: ... because I
live there. So fantastic, here! It would have been much more
simple though it had been
killed at the basketball court, where I never go,
but ... that is not to say
this because my friend was killed and would
been so much better had it not
been killed.
EDDA: well, I was thinking
about this, I thought ... I am facing this,
but my daughter is alive ...
Amanda KNOX: she is dead! We
tried to track down the father? because I know he's here
somewhere, but I don't know
where.
EDDA: I think they're gone.
Amanda KNOX: they've already
gone?
EDDA: I think they are gone.
Amanda KNOX: I told myself
that maybe it would not hurt you I talked to him and told him, "Yes,
We are suffering. "
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EDDA: I think the lawyers
wanted to release some kind of statement about
how horrible this pain and
that we too are suffering in another
so.
Amanda KNOX: so here is my
proposal. I know I said something wrong, but not
I mean, I was just trying to
help. And I really, I ...
EDDA: No, I think they are
more concerned not about the matter of Patrick,
Why will he is innocent (---)
AMANDA KNOX: I don't know.
EDDA: but ... There's nothing
on something awful, how come? something awful
It happened in the kitchen and
something awful happened.
Amanda KNOX: This ... ok,
that's what I thought when I was super
stressed, what I thought might
have happened, because I
imagined to meet him at the
basketball court and I imagined
be at my house so, but I told
him, I don't think it's true, I
said, I do not think that this
is legitimate because I remember I was at home
I'm imagining this, but
instead of Raphael, and they said, "No, No, No, tell us
simply tell us this, tell us
what "and I said, ok, I told them and they
they put in prison here,
thanks. They told me ... when they
talked to me said, "Ok,
you can go home and bla bla bla bla bla"
No, not going home, I'm in
jail, thank you, and now and then I come to
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know that after this, I
thought I'd be withheld just because I knew
something, and when they told
me they are suspected ... but won't say mica
seriously? I have helped, you
scared to death, you've confused,
I have beaten him, roared
back, and now I beat in prison accusing me of
He killed my friend, who was
murdered in my house? I might be
dead right now and you tell me
that I'm a murderer.
EDDA: right now it's tough,
because we cannot be publicly (---
), you know what I mean?
Amanda KNOX: (---) No, I never
said I was mad, because I'm not angry,
I'm frustrated (--) when I'm
here I tell myself that I'm sorry I said
those things about Patrick, but
at the same time I'm fine because I know I'm
innocent, here's what I say,
and it's the truth. I mean, the only reason ... This is
even the first time story of
being frustrated by the police, because
with you I can talk about
anything and I know, I know I'm frustrated by the police
and at the same time I also
know that they are under great stress because on
When it happened they haven't
slept a wink and, ok, I understand that you are very
stressed, but don't blame an
innocent person like me. What did I do?
Nothing, I helped.
EDDA: so, shoes, (--)
Amanda KNOX: the slippers.
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EDDA: slippers, ok.
Amanda KNOX: Namely, your
shoes were fine, it's just that I'd rather have ...
EDDA: Those where you found
them?
Amanda KNOX: they beat Me up
them because they took my shoes.
EDDA: Ok, what kind of
slippers do you want?
AMANDA KNOX: simply they do
not slide off due walking, because floors are cold.
EDDA: everything is cold.
Amanda KNOX: Yes, it's cold
everywhere and my roommate ... strange! When
I came here the first time she
started to organize my stuff
in the closet.
EDDA: Ah-ah-ah-ah!
Amanda KNOX: and I observed
while doing the bed and he made me redo it why not
fine (---) open the window
because all that cold air, she doesn't
like the air that enters the
room.
EDDA: need a coat?
Amanda KNOX: I have one, I
just need a few sweatshirt, IE won't let me leave,
then ...
EDDA: Ok, because I brought
... The only thing I could find is a
Denim jacket with fur inside.
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Amanda KNOX: only that this
type of Sweatshirt I got ... I am concerned that ... is strange,
they think I'm (---) and then
I got 4, size lingerie
that is far too small. Now I
wear the BRA matched to that
underwear and that's okay.
EDDA: well, tested the stuff I
brought because I was bending with Daniela
and I said: it's pretty (---),
but I don't know.
Amanda KNOX: I don't want to
stay here, I told him that I would have much preferred to be
house arrest with you, because
at least I wouldn't feel like a
criminal, because ... well,
I'm here, I'm in prison.
EDDA: I don't even know if the
house arrest .... arrest
are granted in a certain kind
of situation and I don't know if you can stick with
me, you know?
Amanda KNOX: Really?
EDDA: Yes, it must be ... the
work of another priest who has helped others
need of his house arrest and
has a place, but it does mean that I can
come and see you and be with
you at any time.
AMANDA KNOX: (---)
EDDA: Yes, well, I think ...
Yes. I leave the job and (---) I do not know how long
I can stay here.
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Amanda KNOX: well, they're
going to understand. You should talk to the Consulate and try to get a
seen, because technically you
can't be here for more than a month without a
viewed.
EDDA: Ok.
Amanda KNOX: that is,
technically you would have had to sign all the goods into America, but
Maybe in your case will make
an exception because your daughter is retained for
murder ... so they can make an
exception. I'd tell you to talk to
the lawyer who works in Rome.
EDDA: Yes.
Amanda KNOX: because he will
know. And you trust lawyers? Because I trust, but I speak
with only fifteen minutes,
lawyers here.
EDDA: No, Yes, I wanted to
just ask you what do you think of your lawyers.
Amanda KNOX: Yes, it seems to
me that they are very interested, I mean, I had no way to
talk to them than I would have
liked, but only because they were fifteen minutes,
but still I wrote everything I
wanted to say and that I didn't have
so to say, and then just make
sure they get my letters. There are
two ... so they gave me some
paper to write, and there are these great
sheets of paper that are
folded in half like a book and I've written four, two
of those things.
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EDDA: Ok. Be careful not to
write more until I ask you. I
I will ask.
AMANDA KNOX: they said that
there was no problem if I wrote something, I asked her,
and still there is nothing
contradictory in relation to what I said, that is
my version, written him
because it is the truth. The only thing I
worrying is that if
questioning Raphael and he confirms my version,
We were together at her house
and we were talking, he could say that
We were talking about
something else, and they would say, "Oh, no, they're
lying ", you know?
Because I and Raffaele what we do is we go into this
Instead, we eat, we stay home
and watch a movie together and then we talk,
We talk, we talk and talk, so
I know a lot of things about him: I know ...
This however I think told me
later, but we talked about his
mom, we talked about his past,
very long, and there was a
particular event that
occurred, I simply forgot. There
We said: what do we do?
because it is not that we hadn't had dinner. And when the
as they said, "Yes,
you've dined and everything before 8.30",
that is not true, we're eating
dinner later, him dinner later,
so of course I wasn't ... I'm
not game at 8.30. After the movie I received
that thing from Patrick and
then we started to have dinner and after dinner was
poured water onto the floor
and we somehow clean
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literally (---) and then I went
looking for a rag, but had only
brooms, then I told him that I
would take a rag from there. It seemed
upset by this episode so I
hugged him and told him: "What
can I do to make you feel
better? "he said," I want to smoke a joint, then you
the barrel is prepared, I was
lying on the bed, I was thinking how we were
different, because I thought
it was funny. The whole conversation is
begun precisely because we
were different (---)
EDDA: No, I don't care, it
doesn't affect me.
Amanda KNOX: No, I'm just
trying to explain what happened, why did you talk
with my lawyers so you tell
him what I think, because I can't,
I'm locked up here, I can't
talk to anyone.
EDDA: will be back again on
Monday and Tuesday. They have already reviewed all the evidence
the police is releasing.
Amanda KNOX: the police ...
EDDA: Yes.
Amanda KNOX: I want to know
what are these evidence they have against me, because
It's bullshit, where the hell
did they fish?
EDDA: Yes.
Amanda KNOX: my fingerprints
on her face? I sure hope it isn't true,
because how can you be true? I
didn't do anything.
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EDDA: Yes.
Amanda KNOX: I.e. it is
serious evidence, my prints on his face.
EDDA: I know.
Amanda KNOX: How can this be
true?
EDDA: I just ... I mean, there
are lots of crap in the papers.
Amanda KNOX: this is in the
papers, if they tell me that the police have evidence that there are
my fingerprints on your face,
I don't know what to say.
EDDA: cannot be successful.
AMANDA KNOX: that's right,
this can't be true, is impossible. But what about if you say, "No,
No, it's true ", i.e. If
they have my fingerprints on her face must have been from
another time I saw her, but I
never touched her face, well, then you
impossible.
EDDA: (---)
Amanda KNOX: Ok, why are the
bales ... They talked with Madison? But how
the hell ...? You know, I was
worried that anyone knowing (---)
EDDA: Oh, my goodness! No, I
know. The program Today has
invited to attend ...
Amanda KNOX: but are you
serious?
EDDA: Yes, Yes. Right now
they're going after.
Amanda KNOX: those of Today?
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EDDA: All. The whole world is
hunting me.
AMANDA KNOX: do you think that
they will find the killer? (---)
EDDA: well, I hope so.
Amanda KNOX: another thing
that makes no sense to me is because it's been broken the window.
EDDA: Yes, indeed.
Amanda KNOX: Why? I still
don't understand why it happened, but anyway ...
I know. (---)
I'm glad to see you.
EDDA: I'm glad, too.
AMANDA KNOX: do you get back?
EDDA: Yes.
AMANDA KNOX: you ... I thought
it was ...
EDDA: Saturday and Tuesday.
Amanda KNOX: Oh yes, I said
"Saturday and Tuesday" (sic in Italian)
EDDA: Yes. Today I called, I
was supposed to return Sunday, but I think
Susanna and Diana (sic) are
working to make sure that I can use
all the sick days, because I
have a lot, and then I have this Of (sic) ...
AMANDA KNOX: (---)
EDDA: (---) and I have an
apartment.
Amanda KNOX: In this House,
huh-huh!
EDDA: Yes, three.
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Amanda KNOX: Wow! Not bad!
EDDA: Yes.
Amanda KNOX: they were
concerned (---) in a hotel (---) if given a place to stay?
EDDA: this man is a good
person who ... Yes.
Amanda KNOX: so he thinks I'm
innocent?
EDDA: No, I think you were
drunk or drugged or something (---) is to
they say here.
Amanda KNOX: everyone thinks
it's a drug thing? I'm just, I smoked a bales
Reed, is not that ... they
asked me: "when you smoke, then you feel very
confused? ", I
said," No, I feel stupid! ", that's all, it's not that I go on
rounds and say,
"Hi!" (---) I was with
my boyfriend, nothing unusual. And then I
ask, "have you ever made
of cocaine, heroin?", I said, "No!" I know
Anyone who uses it.
EDDA: you cannot imagine all
that I imagined I
about all the possibilities.
AMANDA KNOX: (---)
EDDA: Okay, I knew once I saw
and talked to you, you should
reaffirmed everything that was
going on (--) that they were all crap.
Amanda KNOX: Yes, you know the
truth, I don't know who did this, so I can't
giving away. But they said:
"we can help you if you remember something
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that can be of help to the
police, "I said," Ok, I'm trying to remember, but
I already told you everything
I know, "then how can I remember something that is
important, you know? I'm
trying, I'm trying, but ... it's not easy!
EDDA: how you spend your days?
Amanda KNOX: spend a lot of
time in bed, because it's cold (---), I read and I sleep, I sleep
so, I often go to the
bathroom, I don't eat much, i.e. eat what I
damage, but I'm not hungry
(---).
EDDA: try to do a little
stretching, I don't know.
Amanda KNOX: I do a little
stretching, but the woman he is with me always tells me:
"You're going to break
your neck to force to do so" huh-huh-huh!
EDDA: Huh-huh-huh! She's
Italian?
Amanda KNOX: Yes, Yes, I mean
always says, no one speaks to me in English ... says to me (--), and
I said, "Ok." When I
start to sing and ask her to bother singing, you know,
singing is another way to make
you feel better ...
EDDA: sure, sure.
Amanda KNOX: and I fAMANDA
KNOX: "Yes, Yes, yes" and then when I start to sing interrupts me for
ask me some questions, ok, and
keeps repeating: "I know that you will leave in three days,
in three days you're out,
"I said," did you say the same thing three days ago, "Okay,
EH-eh! Is odd, but it's fun
(---).
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EDDA: I was worried that there
were people that beat you here or people
that, you know ...
AMANDA KNOX: No, they are very
helpful here, no problem.
EDDA: Ok.
Amanda KNOX: Yes, you can say
everything I've told anyone you want, because it is the truth,
It doesn't bother me to
anything I said and there is no reason why I
should be scared, I just don't
want to stay here, I don't deserve it. I was
worried about ... I thought
you knew my situation but I knew
that you weren't aware so I
knew you'd lost your mind.
EDDA: and I told (---) but I
didn't know that I would use my
sick days, but I said,
"How about this: I don't eat, I can't sleep,
burst crying sometimes at
random, I go back and forth in the House at night,
I'm constantly in the
bathroom, and ... "
Amanda KNOX: Yes, well, how
did I go to the bathroom every two seconds? It is true that I drink
a lot of water, but I go to
the bathroom even when not ... that is, when I go to
bathroom not I get nothing,
and think that I feel the need to go to the bathroom,
I don't know why, it's weird.
EDDA: last night, when I got
to know these people and then I got
told you to stay, they had
their family there, and have prepared a nice
dinner, I mean there was to be
moved as they were friendly.
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Amanda KNOX: well, so busy are
held (---) better this way, I'm glad you
treat you well, I knew it would
be this and that it will be in the future.
EDDA: Yes, Yes, the hardest
thing is being here alone, that is, they are sitting in
that apartment in the evening
and there is ... I mean, there's no TV, I couldn't
focus on the book I had
bought, I refuse to listen to the radio,
Why send the songs and then
(---).
Amanda KNOX: it's not easy for
me to watch TV, turn it off and stop it, if there's a movie to
limit is fine, but when I got
here I was initially reduced badly,
just a rag. I was in my room,
without being able to watch TV, not
I had nothing to do, I was
just lying on the bed in this
so, in tears and trying to
remember, and all I did for a couple of
days. And time passed very
slowly ...
EDDA: Yes, I understand.
Amanda KNOX: I was there,
lying on the bed trying to sleep, I mean I was trying to sleep, but I was
always only on Doze.
EDDA: I see, so did I.
Amanda KNOX: but Dick! I
didn't think I would feel that way.
EDDA: No?
Amanda KNOX: obviously (---)
and afterwards I felt better.
EDDA: (---)
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Amanda KNOX: I'm glad to see
your face, that is they are here and the people are nice to
me and if anything happens to
me this has no impact on you, that's all.
EDDA: Yes, well ...
Amanda KNOX: throw Me into
another cell and say that a murderer for the rest
of my life, and people will
forget me and I will remain locked inside here
and in 50 years or thirty ...
EDDA: we don't give up, we
will continue to fight until you have
pulled out of here.
Amanda KNOX: if they can prove
that I didn't do a year from now, I will have lost a
year of my life!
EDDA: I know, I know. You ...
oh, you said you asked for a timeline, so you can
begin to ...
Amanda KNOX: Yes, I ordered a
"notebook" (sic in Italian), but I have also said to
be careful what I write in her
diary. Well, I don't do these
things (---) They are entitled
to seize all my stuff. Honestly I haven't
any worries about what I
wrote.
EDDA: I rather let me begin to
write the beginning of your experience in Perugia,
You understand? return to
this, which is quite safe.
Amanda KNOX: Yes, one of (---)
just told me to imagine that I was for some
the other hand when I write
the story and want to read, so I started
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history since I knew (---) and
told me he liked me, behold,
so I'm translating into
Italian for Rina (sic).
EDDA: who is Rina?
Amanda KNOX: Rina is the guard
who helped me and said she wanted to be my mom,
I don't have a mom, how
strange!, so that's who is Rina. I'm really
Nice, that is technically
shouldn't be cronies, but the fact is that
If they see me in tears come
and make me: "don't cry, it's okay ..."
And there's a woman here in
prison but can go out, sweep and make
chores for prisoners think in
Exchange for money, and when it passes in front of the
my door asking me how it goes,
and then before he left he said, "In the mouth of
Wolf "(sic in Italian),
which means" in the mouth of the Wolf "and is equivalent to
"good luck".
EDDA: Ah, ok, ok.
Amanda KNOX: that is, the
problem you have to deal with is in the mouth of the Wolf and you must
answer "Crepi!" (sic
in Italian) which means "kill!", huh-huh-huh!
EDDA: Huh-huh-huh!
Amanda KNOX: but I don't want
to! EH-eh!
EDDA: Oh, my goodness! Okay,
so I don't know, ask him if he will have the
bag, see what looks good on
you and what doesn't fit, and then on Tuesday we
What else do you need to say.
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Amanda KNOX: right now, the
slippers ...
EDDA: slippers, all right, you
haven't written?
AMANDA KNOX: I know, I was not
given permission to bring a list. I mean, I made it
but they told me I couldn't
take it, it's a piece of paper! OK, just
matter.
EDDA: I did pull out the
handkerchief, I searched before
Enter.
Amanda KNOX: Oh yes? And they
checked you didn't have cigarettes in my pocket, I don't smoke,
I told him.
EDDA: the attorneys always
offer me cigarettes.
Amanda KNOX: Yes, almost by
way of apology for (---) eh-eh-eh! Here smoke everyone, that's why
that smoking is not a big
deal, they smoke.
EDDA: (---) it takes forever,
okay? And I say, "Ok, you can go"
After we have the facts by
attorneys and they say: "do you have any money?", "Yes",
"ok, because they can
deposit into an account", then I gave him my money, he
counted them, put them in your
pocket and that's it.
Amanda KNOX: What?
Huh-huh-huh!
EDDA: don't give you a receipt,
so you don't know if you gave him seventy euros or
No, because ...
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Amanda KNOX: Yes, I have taken
... namely, the ladies here were really on the ball, we
they wrote my name on it and
everything, that when they
searched my bag by removing
all the stuff that I couldn't use, I did not
allowed to have a cap for some
reason, because ...
EDDA: (---)
Amanda KNOX: (---) that I was
wearing, and I said, "well, it doesn't matter." I don't know why and
I honestly don't even wonder
why is the procedure and people working
Here is not ultimately what
decides. It's funny, I'm a little
worried because I have ... I
have to get used to using the Shaver (---).
EDDA: did you ask?
Amanda KNOX: not yet. See if
it is in the catalogue, which means that I can order,
and then I can also order
certain foods, if I want to, but the food here is okay.
EDDA: you don't have to take
you ... I have a whole bag full of food.
Amanda KNOX: Ah, here's
something else! "Cookies" (sic in Italian). At breakfast they give
you
coffee only, and that's fine,
I didn't then that hungry, but one of the things
now I am used to eating at
breakfast are cookies with the
coffee.
EDDA: so I have to be careful
because I brought a whole bag.
Amanda KNOX: food?
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EDDA: Yes, I brought chocolate,
cookies, because the lawyers they
said: "it may take them
some food," I said, "like?", and "chocolate and
Biscuits ", and I
said," Ok, "and then they made me bring in.
Amanda KNOX: What?!
EDDA: Yes, it must be placed
in a clear plastic bag.
Amanda KNOX: Ah, ok.
EDDA: Here.
AMANDA KNOX: what are cookies?
I don't really like those that are too sweet, because there is
an avalanche of sugar and I
don't like it, but the ones I like to
example named "Hugs"
(sic in Italian).
EDDA: "Hugs"?
Amanda KNOX: That means
"hug".
EDDA: Ah, ok.
Amanda KNOX: because there is
chocolate ... that is made as a circle, half chocolate
and half vanilla.
EDDA: Ok, ok, ok.
Amanda KNOX: So called
"Hugs".
EDDA: Ok. But must stay in a
clear plastic bag, because maybe
I have to leave out all the
food I brought, I do bring
inside.
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AMANDA KNOX: probably the
smell, the taste and then give it to me.
EDDA: No, do not enter.
Amanda KNOX: No, I mean, if
ever they were to bring him in the will a
small check to make sure that
it contains no poison or something,
so don't try to commit suicide
in prison. But at the same time people
Here, I mean, I know it's just
a formality, because when I here people who are
Here are very friendly.
EDDA: Ok, that's good.
Amanda KNOX: the police were
jerks. Came here the police, not for
question me again, but for me
to sign the documents, and they told me
just sign here, sign here,
"sign here," I said, "can I read it?" and they said
"Yes",
but it was not a ' yes ' decided,
and I said, "Ok, what is this?" and they said, "blah blah blah
blah ... ", and I
said," Ok. "
EDDA: so they did sign
something in Italian and then provided a
interpreter?
Amanda KNOX: I know stuff that
I have been taking certain things, but those of the police
knew and sometimes they are
just assholes.
EDDA: Ok, oh, it's there, all
right, see you Tuesday, everything will be fine. OK, I love you, too
well.
GUARDIAMANDA KNOX: wait a
minute. Let's first get out mom.
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Amanda KNOX: Yes, Yes. Before
you.
EDDA: Ok.
Amanda KNOX: I love you. I
love you, mom.
G: Hello? Can you sign here, please?
AMANDA KNOX: Yes, of course.
G: nothing, only that I give
you the stuff, well, it's nothing.
G: hold rh? Keep u
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